Gregory Hoag- 3/93 - Interview with Michael Thau
MT: How did you become involved in making Metaforms?
Gregory:
In the early 70’s I began meditating and working with
different spiritual practices. I also started building pyramids
and sleeping in them. In 1982 I went through a very strong Kundalini1
experience, which was catalyzed by a large pyramid filled with
crystals. It took me several years to balance the energy flowing
through me and become grounded. At that time I started seeing
geometric patterns of energy, basically the patterns that exist
prior to energy being in physical manifestation. I began to
build what I was seeing, and people reacted to those forms;
both aesthetically and especially in an energetic sense. They
said that they felt energy coming from the forms. I met my wife,
Gail, in 1985. She had been channeling and working with the
energies of Buckminster Fuller, the inventor of the geodesic
dome, which was a natural meld with the geometric forms that
I was working with. We started becoming more conscious and intentional
in what we were creating, connecting with higher self and asking
specific questions about building tools. We were also approached
by subtle energies; for example, Gail was channeling Bucky Fuller
for someone and he said at the end of the channeling, “
I would like to talk to you about a form I want you to build
for Harmonic Convergence.” We gave the first model of
that form to José Argüelles, the steward for Harmonic
Convergence. It turned out to be an exact three dimensional
representation of the Mayan Calendar that he was working with.
It also integrated some of Bucky’s previous work as well
as Eastern esoteric philosophy. All of these discoveries were
made after we created the form. This has been our constant learning
and evolution: tune in, build the form, use it, grow and discover
its relationship in the matrix of creation. We were approached
by many energies and channels who asked us if we would build
a certain antenna system that would help make it easier for
them to communicate with this dimension. Physical form is directly
related to sound, light, and all vibrations in the energetic
spectrum. It is just another aspect of energy in one of its
more dense and slow moving manifestations. By building the physical
form as an antenna system it can help manifest and direct subtle
energies. Energy is distorted coming into this dimension not
only by the dimensional shift but also by the collective emotional
body of the planet. At this time, it is exceptionally jumbled
and thick, so that information is especially distorted. By having
a shape or form to lock on to, intelligences or subtle energies
can more easily come through and be available for application.
MT: So, in a sense, the physical geometrical form acts as an anchor
point?
Gregory: Yes it does. The principle at work is sympathetic resonance:
a “C” tuning fork at rest will begin to vibrate when a
“C” tone is played. Thus, an antennae system both attracts
exact resonant energies and redirects other ambient energies into
a specific function. By combining other energetic elements such as
color, electromagnetic frequencies, types of materials, etc., we can
create a very specific chord of energy to affect the change we desire.
MT:
What is the process that you generally follow when going about
deciding what new Metaforms to make and how to go about it?
Gregory: Often we are requested by someone to make a tool for specific
reasons and that seems to start the creative process of thoughts
coming in, visions, symbols. . . they just start. When I open
myself up to it I begin seeing what resonates from my perspective,
and from the special way I work with Spiritual energy. I experience
the energy in my mental, emotional, and physical bodies, and then
start building. It may take a year or two as common sense and
experimentation continue the process. Working this way, however,
is faster than trial and error because we are given a lot of guidance
as well as being empowered to use our discernment, sense of logic
and knowledge to put these things together. Sometimes the information
that comes through from another level may not necessarily be what
is most appropriate at this time or for certain locations or people.
We have to take responsibility and exercise choice. We have many
forms which have not been offered for sale (yet).
MT: How do Metaforms interact with an individual to catalyze
spiritual consciousness in the various people who use them?
Gregory: This is going back to what we talked about before.
They work by creating a field of energy that is resonant with
more subtle fields so that the subtle field is able to be
focused and accessed. For example, the 3D Star is a form that
as a person sits underneath it, they are in a field that resonates
with a very particular energy due to the kind of materials
and shapes that are used . It starts to activate energetically
what is going on in an individual. We have subtle fields around
us that when activated by the focused energy of the forms,
begins a flow of energy in the body, which can start an opening
process. The flow of energy opens and stimulates the upper
chakras of the body, building a bridge to soul. The energy
can be directed by consciousness throughout the body. Since
energy is also information, one can begin to be more and more
aware of the universal truths that are equated with spiritual
consciousness. 
We have measured brain wave patterns in individuals while they
are under the 3D Star and we have found that within about thirty
seconds a person’s brainwaves move from the Beta level
through Alpha and into Theta and Delta. So there is a deepening
of the brain wave pattern and a synchronicity between right
and left brain. All of this seems to be indicative of a more
receptive state, deeper level of energetic flow and connection
as the body is activated by the Metaforms. We work with materials
like inert gases, colors, and also magnetics in combination
with certain forms. Basically, when you take the form and add
to it an energetic quality such as a magnet or inert gas in
the appropriate place, you find that you are actually setting
up certain charges within the body, certain movements of electrical
flow. What we realize is that the body runs on electrical flow,
which is often described in acupuncture as the body is stimulated
by needles or magnets at certain points to increase the flow
of energy. Similarly, what we are doing with a non-invasive
technique in working with the various forms is to stimulate
electrical flow, energetic flow, and other subtle etheric flows
to create an opening and flow in the chakras and energetic points
around the body. This stimulates healing and illuminates issues
not only on the physical level, but also on the emotional and
mental plane. All three of these levels must become clear and
integrated if one is to become a vehicle for soul’s expression.
Metaforms can assist with all aspects of this healing process
and strengthen the connection with soul. And as with any good
tool, the energy of a Metaform shifts with the focus of the
user, so they can be used by beginners or someone who is more
adept to achieve different goals; just as a hammer can be used
to crack nuts or build a house. In addition, Metaforms can enhance
whatever process or technique people are using.
MT: Do Metaforms simply enhance already present personal consciousness,
or do they focus consciousness from Spirit outside of the individual?
Or is there a mixture of both?
Gregory: That is a tricky question because what we are talking
about is the illusion of separation that we are all operating
under in terms of Spirit outside of the self and separate
from our consciousness. Even the location of Spirit can be
understood as inside the self, as we open up more and more
in that direction. The other part of the question is about
stimulating what is already there. Certainly on one level
there is so much that is constantly being shown to us that
we understand and yet there are blocks within the body (emotional,
mental and physical) that keep us from “knowing”
what we know or having adequate energy flow to allow Spirit
or information to move through the body and be expressed.
What I see the Metaforms doing are enhancing the flow, enhancing
the connection and the unity through the experience of that
flow. There really is no separation and yet it seems that
is what partially we are here on Earth to learn. We all have
many things that have gone on in our lives that have created
blockage or restricted flow of information and energy, contributing
to a sense of separation from each other and from God. The
original illusion of separation created by taking a body on
Earth is at the root of most of our fears and unworthiness.
Increased energy flow/increased information, it’s all
increased Love, which creates a sense of unity and connection.
Then it is no longer a question of where the information is
coming from. . . it just is. Even now Gail and I don’t
really go outside of our conciousness to talk to any particular
energy or being. We know the information is there and if we
open our minds and hearts to sincerely ask for the answer,
it will be provided for us. When
Gail and I tune into information it is on a (higher) conscious
level that becomes integrated with our personalities. It is
not like a separate entity that we invite into our bodies
while we are unconcious of what’s going on. We feel
that it is important to maintain the integrity of our energy
field, working through the vehicle of our soul, which acts
like a circuit breaker to protect our field. It is this mediator
that determines what is appropriate to come into us. We also
acknowledge and take advantage of our personalities and their
attributes. Acceptance is the key and the hurdle in all of
this.
MT: I want to thank you for distinguishing between separation
and simply accepting what is there in terms of the question.
What in your opinion is the difference between art and science?
Gregory: There are many things happening in today’s
society that are pushing us towards more and more separation
and individualization. Within the field of science there is
more specialization and within those fields of specialization
there is categorization that establishes even more boxes.
It has become so extreme that it is often difficult for a
specialist in one field to communicate with a specialist in
another field. However, there is an overriding, enveloping
understanding that connects all things; scientifically, politically,
socially, spiritually. The way that connection flows between
all the different fields is really the truth of existence
and what is. We can, as we tune in, discover the connection.
. . the unifying field that is involving and evolving everything
and no matter where we are coming from: science or politics,
making a painting or a pot of soup. When we live from that
perspective of unification, we become divine receivers, which
is what art is all about. Art transcends the constricting
paradigms, is able to gather inspiration and information and
then breathe life back into the existing field for growth.
If someone is in the political or scientific arena and is
able to see different issues and bring those perspectives
to a new level of understanding with other people, then he
or she is an artist. So there really is no separation between
art and science in that sense. Many of the scientists that
I’ve been inspired by, like Bucky Fuller or Einstein,
had that moment of inspiration where they tuned into something,
got the information and then spent much of their lives attempting
to clarify it, prove it, demonstrate how it works for other
people. The
moment of inspiration is an artistic moment wherever it occurs.
We see that the people in Egypt thousands of years ago worked
with politics, art, science, architecture and design within
a more continuous metaphor. There was a continuity where one
field could also express another and the reason was a singular
focused connection with the Divine. This is still what inspires
art and any artful individual. Today more and more people
are beginning to realize that there needs to be more connection
and unification betweeen and within all disciplines. This
is a measure to look at and see if something really is working,
or if more separation is created, perhaps it is a dubious
advancement. In conclusion, art is at the heart of all things.
To be one with Spirit is to first mirror the creative process
with Love. All disciplines cascade downhill from that source.
MT: Where do you go from here in the types of Metaforms and
other Spiritual manifestations that you will be creating?
Gregory: My first reaction is the honest one of. . . something
that I’m learning more and more, I’m here in service
and I’m here to grow, I’m not a tool maker, a Metaforms
maker first, even though I feel that’s often the way I
view it. It’s more appropriate for me to look at things
as how I can serve. In that light I can stay open to the way
Universe wants to make use of what I have to offer and how I
can fit in and play my role in the opportunities that are offered
to me. At the moment it seems that I am often making tools and
there are many different ones sitting on shelves, some real
and some still unmanifest. The other day I received a call from
a company that works with food distribution. Someone was familiar
with what we were doing and asked if there was a tool that would
work with food. As it turned out, we had built something about
three years ago and had experimented with it in a limited fashion.
Now they want to experiment with this tool that will help to
decrease the bacterial growth and improve the freshness of food,
as it adds more energies that are life positive for the body.
Anyway, it was there, unused, and someone called up: that was
Spirit playing. I just need to be open to when Universe wants
to play and hopefully I will be able to receive.
Biography
Gregory Hoag is a scientist, artist and entrepreneur. He divided
his time between science and art in college, graduating in 1970.
Since then he has started and sold several different businesses
in the area of light manufacturing of art objects. From 1985
to the present he has been involved with Metaforms, researching
and designing tools that combine shape, color, electromagnetic
frequencies, magnetics and many different materials to affect
energetic shifts in environments for health and growth.
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