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Gregory Hoag- 3/93 - Interview with Michael Thau

MT: How did you become involved in making Metaforms?

Gregory: In the early 70’s I began meditating and working with different spiritual practices. I also started building pyramids and sleeping in them. In 1982 I went through a very strong Kundalini1 experience, which was catalyzed by a large pyramid filled with crystals. It took me several years to balance the energy flowing through me and become grounded. At that time I started seeing geometric patterns of energy, basically the patterns that exist prior to energy being in physical manifestation. I began to build what I was seeing, and people reacted to those forms; both aesthetically and especially in an energetic sense. They said that they felt energy coming from the forms. I met my wife, Gail, in 1985. She had been channeling and working with the energies of Buckminster Fuller, the inventor of the geodesic dome, which was a natural meld with the geometric forms that I was working with. We started becoming more conscious and intentional in what we were creating, connecting with higher self and asking specific questions about building tools. We were also approached by subtle energies; for example, Gail was channeling Bucky Fuller for someone and he said at the end of the channeling, “ I would like to talk to you about a form I want you to build for Harmonic Convergence.” We gave the first model of that form to José Argüelles, the steward for Harmonic Convergence. It turned out to be an exact three dimensional representation of the Mayan Calendar that he was working with. It also integrated some of Bucky’s previous work as well as Eastern esoteric philosophy. All of these discoveries were made after we created the form. This has been our constant learning and evolution: tune in, build the form, use it, grow and discover its relationship in the matrix of creation. We were approached by many energies and channels who asked us if we would build a certain antenna system that would help make it easier for them to communicate with this dimension. Physical form is directly related to sound, light, and all vibrations in the energetic spectrum. It is just another aspect of energy in one of its more dense and slow moving manifestations. By building the physical form as an antenna system it can help manifest and direct subtle energies. Energy is distorted coming into this dimension not only by the dimensional shift but also by the collective emotional body of the planet. At this time, it is exceptionally jumbled and thick, so that information is especially distorted. By having a shape or form to lock on to, intelligences or subtle energies can more easily come through and be available for application.

 

MT: So, in a sense, the physical geometrical form acts as an anchor point?

Gregory: Yes it does. The principle at work is sympathetic resonance: a “C” tuning fork at rest will begin to vibrate when a “C” tone is played. Thus, an antennae system both attracts exact resonant energies and redirects other ambient energies into a specific function. By combining other energetic elements such as color, electromagnetic frequencies, types of materials, etc., we can create a very specific chord of energy to affect the change we desire.

 

MT: What is the process that you generally follow when going about deciding what new Metaforms to make and how to go about it?

Gregory: Often we are requested by someone to make a tool for specific reasons and that seems to start the creative process of thoughts coming in, visions, symbols. . . they just start. When I open myself up to it I begin seeing what resonates from my perspective, and from the special way I work with Spiritual energy. I experience the energy in my mental, emotional, and physical bodies, and then start building. It may take a year or two as common sense and experimentation continue the process. Working this way, however, is faster than trial and error because we are given a lot of guidance as well as being empowered to use our discernment, sense of logic and knowledge to put these things together. Sometimes the information that comes through from another level may not necessarily be what is most appropriate at this time or for certain locations or people. We have to take responsibility and exercise choice. We have many forms which have not been offered for sale (yet).

 

MT: How do Metaforms interact with an individual to catalyze spiritual consciousness in the various people who use them?

Gregory: This is going back to what we talked about before. They work by creating a field of energy that is resonant with more subtle fields so that the subtle field is able to be focused and accessed. For example, the 3D Star is a form that as a person sits underneath it, they are in a field that resonates with a very particular energy due to the kind of materials and shapes that are used . It starts to activate energetically what is going on in an individual. We have subtle fields around us that when activated by the focused energy of the forms, begins a flow of energy in the body, which can start an opening process. The flow of energy opens and stimulates the upper chakras of the body, building a bridge to soul. The energy can be directed by consciousness throughout the body. Since energy is also information, one can begin to be more and more aware of the universal truths that are equated with spiritual consciousness.

We have measured brain wave patterns in individuals while they are under the 3D Star and we have found that within about thirty seconds a person’s brainwaves move from the Beta level through Alpha and into Theta and Delta. So there is a deepening of the brain wave pattern and a synchronicity between right and left brain. All of this seems to be indicative of a more receptive state, deeper level of energetic flow and connection as the body is activated by the Metaforms. We work with materials like inert gases, colors, and also magnetics in combination with certain forms. Basically, when you take the form and add to it an energetic quality such as a magnet or inert gas in the appropriate place, you find that you are actually setting up certain charges within the body, certain movements of electrical flow. What we realize is that the body runs on electrical flow, which is often described in acupuncture as the body is stimulated by needles or magnets at certain points to increase the flow of energy. Similarly, what we are doing with a non-invasive technique in working with the various forms is to stimulate electrical flow, energetic flow, and other subtle etheric flows to create an opening and flow in the chakras and energetic points around the body. This stimulates healing and illuminates issues not only on the physical level, but also on the emotional and mental plane. All three of these levels must become clear and integrated if one is to become a vehicle for soul’s expression. Metaforms can assist with all aspects of this healing process and strengthen the connection with soul. And as with any good tool, the energy of a Metaform shifts with the focus of the user, so they can be used by beginners or someone who is more adept to achieve different goals; just as a hammer can be used to crack nuts or build a house. In addition, Metaforms can enhance whatever process or technique people are using.

 

MT: Do Metaforms simply enhance already present personal consciousness, or do they focus consciousness from Spirit outside of the individual? Or is there a mixture of both?

Gregory: That is a tricky question because what we are talking about is the illusion of separation that we are all operating under in terms of Spirit outside of the self and separate from our consciousness. Even the location of Spirit can be understood as inside the self, as we open up more and more in that direction. The other part of the question is about stimulating what is already there. Certainly on one level there is so much that is constantly being shown to us that we understand and yet there are blocks within the body (emotional, mental and physical) that keep us from “knowing” what we know or having adequate energy flow to allow Spirit or information to move through the body and be expressed. What I see the Metaforms doing are enhancing the flow, enhancing the connection and the unity through the experience of that flow. There really is no separation and yet it seems that is what partially we are here on Earth to learn. We all have many things that have gone on in our lives that have created blockage or restricted flow of information and energy, contributing to a sense of separation from each other and from God. The original illusion of separation created by taking a body on Earth is at the root of most of our fears and unworthiness. Increased energy flow/increased information, it’s all increased Love, which creates a sense of unity and connection. Then it is no longer a question of where the information is coming from. . . it just is. Even now Gail and I don’t really go outside of our conciousness to talk to any particular energy or being. We know the information is there and if we open our minds and hearts to sincerely ask for the answer, it will be provided for us. When Gail and I tune into information it is on a (higher) conscious level that becomes integrated with our personalities. It is not like a separate entity that we invite into our bodies while we are unconcious of what’s going on. We feel that it is important to maintain the integrity of our energy field, working through the vehicle of our soul, which acts like a circuit breaker to protect our field. It is this mediator that determines what is appropriate to come into us. We also acknowledge and take advantage of our personalities and their attributes. Acceptance is the key and the hurdle in all of this.

 

MT: I want to thank you for distinguishing between separation and simply accepting what is there in terms of the question. What in your opinion is the difference between art and science?

Gregory: There are many things happening in today’s society that are pushing us towards more and more separation and individualization. Within the field of science there is more specialization and within those fields of specialization there is categorization that establishes even more boxes. It has become so extreme that it is often difficult for a specialist in one field to communicate with a specialist in another field. However, there is an overriding, enveloping understanding that connects all things; scientifically, politically, socially, spiritually. The way that connection flows between all the different fields is really the truth of existence and what is. We can, as we tune in, discover the connection. . . the unifying field that is involving and evolving everything and no matter where we are coming from: science or politics, making a painting or a pot of soup. When we live from that perspective of unification, we become divine receivers, which is what art is all about. Art transcends the constricting paradigms, is able to gather inspiration and information and then breathe life back into the existing field for growth. If someone is in the political or scientific arena and is able to see different issues and bring those perspectives to a new level of understanding with other people, then he or she is an artist. So there really is no separation between art and science in that sense. Many of the scientists that I’ve been inspired by, like Bucky Fuller or Einstein, had that moment of inspiration where they tuned into something, got the information and then spent much of their lives attempting to clarify it, prove it, demonstrate how it works for other people. The moment of inspiration is an artistic moment wherever it occurs. We see that the people in Egypt thousands of years ago worked with politics, art, science, architecture and design within a more continuous metaphor. There was a continuity where one field could also express another and the reason was a singular focused connection with the Divine. This is still what inspires art and any artful individual. Today more and more people are beginning to realize that there needs to be more connection and unification betweeen and within all disciplines. This is a measure to look at and see if something really is working, or if more separation is created, perhaps it is a dubious advancement. In conclusion, art is at the heart of all things. To be one with Spirit is to first mirror the creative process with Love. All disciplines cascade downhill from that source.

 

MT: Where do you go from here in the types of Metaforms and other Spiritual manifestations that you will be creating?

Gregory: My first reaction is the honest one of. . . something that I’m learning more and more, I’m here in service and I’m here to grow, I’m not a tool maker, a Metaforms maker first, even though I feel that’s often the way I view it. It’s more appropriate for me to look at things as how I can serve. In that light I can stay open to the way Universe wants to make use of what I have to offer and how I can fit in and play my role in the opportunities that are offered to me. At the moment it seems that I am often making tools and there are many different ones sitting on shelves, some real and some still unmanifest. The other day I received a call from a company that works with food distribution. Someone was familiar with what we were doing and asked if there was a tool that would work with food. As it turned out, we had built something about three years ago and had experimented with it in a limited fashion. Now they want to experiment with this tool that will help to decrease the bacterial growth and improve the freshness of food, as it adds more energies that are life positive for the body. Anyway, it was there, unused, and someone called up: that was Spirit playing. I just need to be open to when Universe wants to play and hopefully I will be able to receive.

Biography

Gregory Hoag is a scientist, artist and entrepreneur. He divided his time between science and art in college, graduating in 1970. Since then he has started and sold several different businesses in the area of light manufacturing of art objects. From 1985 to the present he has been involved with Metaforms, researching and designing tools that combine shape, color, electromagnetic frequencies, magnetics and many different materials to affect energetic shifts in environments for health and growth.